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paule
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Posted: Saturday, March 5, 2005 - 17:39 Edit this message  Reply to this message with quotes  (IP Logged)

I have similar although not identical requirements for radio recordings to thos posted. My method is record via Digiguide/dabdig then I use an audio edit package to trim file (Soundforge 7.0, it understands mpg files) one trimmed I save as 48k VBR mps file, this works great. My problem is that my VideoRedo editor (excellent for trimming video recorded mpg files) gets confused and hangs when I openup a Freeview recorded radio file... this is easliy done as all recorded files have same extension ie mpg. Is it possible to get dabdig to put mp2 extension to all radio recordings?

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Posted: Saturday, March 5, 2005 - 18:25 Edit this message  Reply to this message with quotes  Delete this message  (IP Logged)

From looking at my old email - I think that you are using the Technotrend software.

If so - then last time I checked - it only supported MPG.

I see that there is a line item in their 2.16 changes log that says ...

"Recording of MPEG2"

So - I'll try and work out what that means.

As an experiment ... what happens if you rename a recorded file from MPG to MP2?

If that is sufficient to fool the other software then it could be something that could be automated with the PostProcess function of DABDig.


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Edited by Paul Webster on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 2:45:25 PM

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Posted: Sunday, March 6, 2005 - 11:05 Edit this message  Reply to this message with quotes  Delete this message  (IP Logged)

I see from the on-line help that comes with the Technotrend 2.17g software that there is an installation wide option:


You can choose between different formats for your recorded files:

• PVA: Record files as PES-Audio/Video format (default for Digital TV)

• MPG: PS-Audio/Video format (MPEG-2)

• PSV: PES-Video format, only video will be recorded

• MP2: MP2-Audio format, only audio will be recorded

This options only effect TV recordings since Radio will always be recorded as MP2-Audio format.


i.e. it says that radio channels are automatically recorded as MP2.

If so - I would expect the rename that I referred to above would work.

Which version are you running?


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Posted: Monday, March 7, 2005 - 22:15 Edit this message  Reply to this message with quotes  Delete this message  (IP Logged)

Paul your records arfe correct.. I have now upgraded to Technotrend 2.17g, and yes if I change the radio recording extension from mpg to mp2 it behaves as an acceptable audio file. In order to sort my little problem I would simply like to automatically saver radio recordings with a mp2 extension. Could you give me some way to configure dabdig so that just radio recordings ( these channels are known in advance ie Radio 4 etc)) have their file extensions as mp2. I could see the PostProcess function doing this, but pressumably it would need to be conditional on wether or not it was a radio recording, could you give me some suggeststion please!

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Posted: Monday, March 7, 2005 - 23:02 Edit this message  Reply to this message with quotes  Delete this message  (IP Logged)

Try this first ... if it owrks then you just have to remember that you are recording from the radio when you set a marker.

With Notepad - edir <digiguide>/user-settings/markers/DABDig.dgmarker

Look for

blnRecordingType = false;

and replace it and the following 2 lines with:

blnRecordingType = true;

arrRecordingTypes = new Array("RECORD","MP2");

arrRecordingTypeNames = new Array("Default","Audio only");

then restart DigiGuide.

If the edit was right then you should see a new sub-menu appear when you request a recording from the DABDig menu in DigiGuide.

If you choose "Audio only" then it will tell the Technotrend software to use MP2 as the file extension when it records.

If that works and you can put up with the extra menu item then great.

If it doesn't work or you keep forgetting to choose "Audio only" when recording from the radio then I can have a look at doing something else. Unfortunately the Technotrend config file does not indicate which stations are radio - so it will be a bit messy however I do it.


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paule
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Posted: Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 21:59 Edit this message  Reply to this message with quotes  Delete this message  (IP Logged)

I am affraid this edit did not work...

I have already modified the DABDig.dgmarker to now exclude schedule play but to included array options on duration +1,+3,+60 etc does this fly out menu conflict with your proposal? Resulting part code:-

<template name="DABDigR" id="195902112" searchterm="Big GrinABDigR">

<keycommands>

<keycommand command="ToggleRecord" code="ToggleRecord();"/>

</keycommands>

<code>

/*

Set to "true" to enable device specific icons - do same in DABDigL above

*/

blnUseDeviceIcons = false;

/*

Set to "true" to enable selection of recording type - and modify the array of recording type

*/

blnRecordingType = true;

arrRecordingTypes = new Array("RECORD","MP2");

arrRecordingTypeNames = new Array("Default","Audio only");

/*

Set to "true" to enable selection of a modified duration - do same in DABDigL above

*/

blnAllowDurationChange = true;

arrDurationChange = new Array("Default","+1","+3","+60","+90","+120","+180","-1","-2","-5");

function OnSetInitialDefaults()

{

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Posted: Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 23:15 Edit this message  Reply to this message with quotes  Delete this message  (IP Logged)

It should have worked - I just did something very similar here and it was fine.

Did you restart DigiGuide?

Did the menu structure say the same as before or did record disappear completely?

What was the last version number in the top of the file? (needs at least v1.13 as a basis)


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Posted: Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 09:37 Edit this message  Reply to this message with quotes  Delete this message  (IP Logged)

Sorry I am using ver 1.11, I will upgrade to version 1.13 and try again ... thanks,

Paul

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Posted: Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 16:55 Edit this message  Reply to this message with quotes  Delete this message  (IP Logged)

I have updated to ver 1.13 edited as suggested and success!!!

Does exactly what I require, I am not worried about manually selecting options from drop downs.

Thanks again for an excellent piece of software and rapid response.

I look forward to seeing what help Digiguide may offer to resolve the last big issue ... conflicts!!!

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Posted: Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 18:41 Edit this message  Reply to this message with quotes  Delete this message  (IP Logged)

Good news.

The reason that you needed 1.13 was that I had fixed a bug to do with presenting the menus when all options were enabled.

FYI - I have a 1.15 ... not released generally yet - this was to allow different devices ot be used for Listen/Watch and Record.

v1.14 - 20/02/2005 - Add Category to command line (parameter 12)

v1.15 - 28/02/2005 - Add ability to change channel name to potentially allow Listen/Watch and Record to have different channel maps

As for clashes ... looks like the function will not be in DigiGuide 8.2 so I am doing my own basic one.

Hopefully you know that if you type :dabdigr into the Find box in DigiGuide then you can see all future scheduled recordings - and you can then adjust the durations if needed.

The annoying thing for your set-up (and others with DVB kit) is that it is possible for the receiver to record more than one station at a time provided they are on the same multiplex. It is not much extra CPU load to do it (in theory at least).

Nebula say that they are going to add this in to a future version of their DigiTV.


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Posted: Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 17:19 Edit this message  Reply to this message with quotes  Delete this message  (IP Logged)

Yes I came accross :dabdigr the other day sand it is very useful. I do think however that digiguide should be able to se overlaps and present options where conflicts occur, ideally this should be at point of entry of a recording rather than wait until the day after only to find your record system has locked up! and worse, not recorded episode 98/100 of your favourite series!! I suppose the only surefire way is two TV cards or Nebula card with appropriate software.

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